Tibet

For decades, Tibetan refugees in Nepal have been living in relative peace, a situation that may be about to change.

Some in Nepal fear that China is stirring up tensions between their countrymen and the Tibetan refugee population.

Kathmandu has come under increasing Chinese pressure to clamp down on protests by Tibetan political activists, making the lives of some refugees increasingly difficult.

Al Jazeera’s Subina Shrestha reports from Kathmandu.

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Hey I could not find exact details of this, any article links or information would be helpful. How has the Dalai Lama helped Tibetan society, what has he achieved so far with his protests against China etc.

This has been going on for 51 years… possibly, if not for Dalai Lama, there would not be a Tibetan culture existing as we know it today. There are so many Tibetans that are exiles in India, take refuge in India, and because of the good will and respect with the Indian people and government there might not be a place for Tibetans to exist in exile as they do today within India.
And, Dalai Lama is not against China or does not protest against China. This is a misunderstanding. When speaking of the horrible things that have happened in China concerning the Tibetan people, he does not mince words. But he seeks autonomy and not independence. Delegates from the Tibetan government in exile have been negotiating with the Chinese governement, but this is and has been a very slow process.
The oppression of the Tibetan people within Chinese Cccupied Tibet still continues. But what has happened in the exile community is very courageous and hopeful.
You can find out more at:

so that the Chineese would win more gold medals?
Is this the only way China can win any gold is if everybody else stays home?

If the Chineese were the only ones that showed up at the Olympics
they still wouldn’t get any gold medals
the cockroaches would beat them to the medals

Tibet’s regional governor said security forces had exercised “massive restraint” to quell anti-China riots last week.

The main violence was in Tibet’s capital Lhasa. But then demonstrations flared elsewhere as ethnic Tibetans began demonstrating across eastern China.

There are reports that some people were killed in clashes between protesters and police in Sichuan province. And rallies were also held in Qinghai province, where many ethnic Tibetans live.

In Gansu province, hundreds of protesters marched on government buildings and set fire to Chinese shops.

Tony Cheng is close to Tibet’s border to gauge the mood.

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China says that Tibet was a part of China, Tibetans say that it wasn’t….Can someobe briefly outline what the Tibetan view is and why they claim that Tibet was never a part of China…Thanks

Could be because Tibet was an independent country before 1949. Since then Tibet has experienced a forced immigration of Han Chinese and ‘development’ which has attempted to annihilate the regional culture. I support the Tibetans in their struggle for cultural and religious survival, but, at the same time, there is an annexed Chinese province, (Sinkiang) where the Uighur people, who are Muslims and speak a Turkic language, are also being persecuted. At the last ‘Tibetan’ demonstration, there were a few ‘East Turkmenistan’ flags around, but in general, these people are ignored by the international community.

Tenzin Norbu Lama signs his books during the Tibetan Culturel Festival in Paris, May 15/16 2010, organized by the Tibetan Community of France.

http://www.drokpa.org/dolpo_artist/tenzin_norbu_lama.htm

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Generally, Taiwanese suffer a lot the intimidation from China. But when in foreign countries, they collaborate with people from China against "Tibet independence" and fight shoulder by shoulder with Chinese. They also boycott any words insulting China, why?

You are making up things. I see nothing of the sort that you describe.

Tibetans are not indians, are they?

Dalai Lama once criticized us Indians and called us lazy.
If we Indians are nice to him, shouldn’t he be nice to us. Also, Tibetans living here do not accept our culture. If I am in U.K., I’ll accept their culture.

My point is: If you live in a foreign country, you must accept their culture. If you don’t want to adapt, why must you live there?

If Tibetans do not want to change, why not live in Tibet?

It is a tedious political decision, once it is done two immediate results will hover around indian fragile neck

rest of the tibetan population will be pushed across the indian borders like bangladeshi chakma refugees

thousands of acres of land is already annexed and china will get an excuse to annexe the remaining disputed territory

Also look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLN4KWxqZ-0

Chinese border patrol are shooting and killing tibetan refugees crossing the Nangpa La mountain pass last week into Nepal. Hear the comment of the romanian camera man and the reaction of the Dalai Lama in english

KATHMANDU—Members of a group of 43 Tibetans have described their terrifying flight to Nepal under deadly fire from Chinese border guards who took several dozen other Tibetans into custody.

Witnesses said at least one person was killed and at least one wounded by gunfire Sept. 30 near the Himalayan pass at Nangpa La in the Mount Everest region. Others set the death toll higher. Another 36 or 37 Tibetans were detained, witnesses told RFA’s Tibetan service.

The group, which originally numbered around 80 Tibetans, began their journey out of Chinese-controlled Tibet on Sept. 30-Oct. 1, according to members of the group—41 asylum-seekers and two Tibetan escorts—who arrived in Kathmandu on Oct. 10.

“When the Chinese fired at us, I was so tense and frightened. It is still difficult for me to explain what happened,” one man said in an interview after arriving at the Tibetan Reception Center in Kathmandu.

“It was so tense and confusing that I just thought of staying alive and escaping. I couldn’t think of anything else or help the others.”

“I think the Chinese fired for about 15 minutes. I felt bullets whizzing past my ears. In fact I felt about five bullets pass by me and luckily they missed me. I was so frightened that I crawled in the snow using my hands and feet. The snow was about knee-deep,” he said.

The man, who asked not to be named, said the group initially thought the gunshots were fireworks, because there were many Western visitors who had come to climb the mountains in the area.

“I thought they were playing with fireworks. But then we realized it was gunshots and about 30 to 40 rounds were fired. In the confusion, we split into two groups. Those of us who were in the front managed to escape and the later group of about 30 or more Tibetans could not escape,” he said.

Another Tibetan, who hid in the mountains for two nights before crossing into Nepal, said: “I saw a small child…There was another young boy who was shot in the foot and an old man. They were detained in the area until late afternoon and then the Chinese police took them away.”

Buddhist nun shot dead
“Those who escaped later saw the body of the nun who was killed. She was Kalsang Namtso, 17 years old from Ngachu Dri-ru (in Chinese, Biru Xian) county. They gave a local yak herder 100 yuan and asked him to take body away but we heard that he didn’t do it. So we don’t know what happened later,” the second man said.

A Western climber who witnessed the incident told RFA’s Tibetan service that two others in his group had been contacted by the Chinese Embassy in Nepal and asked to attend a meeting there.

“They have since left Nepal and gone home” without visiting the Chinese Embassy, the climber said.

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I’ve been receiving both sides of the story of either tibetans want independent or not. I have no idea which to believe because I’m not very well-read about this situation. Please only provide rational and helpful answers. Thanks.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071222194345AAiVMFt&show=7

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AlUTpNMCncjME6YgCGXYJjEjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20070807014048AArLAp3

I thought these are questions with a rational answer.

I know there are a lot of people screaming ‘free tibet’
But as the 1st link’s best answer (helloworld) pointed out if tibet are really freed, who will be their government? The monks? do you realise how many people will die of starvation?

The second link look at Chaos and yadda!’s answer:
"Many experts said if China did not invade Tibet, Tibet will not be improved like today. Although Beijing rule that region with heavy hand, still Tibet enjoyed modernization and economy plan by Beijing…" (more from second link)
Tibet experienced unprecedented development of the productive forces and improvements in living standards.

Many Tibetan farmers, for example, have no interest in surrendering the land they gained during China’s land reform to the clans. Tibet’s former slaves say they, too, don’t want their former masters to return to power. “I’ve already lived that life once before,” said Wangchuk, a 67-year-old former slave who was wearing his best clothes for his yearly pilgrimage to Shigatse, one of the holiest sites of Tibetan Buddhism. He said he worshipped the Dalai Lama, but added, “I may not be free under Chinese communism, but I am better off than when I was a slave" — Michael Parenti, The Culture Struggle (Seven Stories, 2006).

Kim Lewis, who studied healing methods with a Buddhist monk in Berkeley, California, had occasion to talk at length with more than a dozen Tibetan women who lived in the monk’s building. When she asked how they felt about returning to their homeland, the sentiment was unanimously negative. At first, Lewis assumed that their reluctance had to do with the Chinese occupation, but they quickly informed her otherwise. They said they were extremely grateful “not to have to marry 4 or 5 men, be pregnant almost all the time,” or deal with sexually transmitted diseases contacted from a straying husband. The younger women “were delighted to be getting an education, wanted absolutely nothing to do with any religion, and wondered why Americans were so naïve [about Tibet].” — Kim Lewis, correspondence to me, 15 July 2004.

If had not the Chinese going into tibet, they are still a country with slavery. Tibetan peasant slave system once exist under Dalai Lama’s regime. But, it was abolished in 1949.

http://www.swans.com/library/art9/mparen01.html

Tibet’s GDP in 2001 was 13.9 billion yuan (USD1.8billion). The Central government exempts Tibet from all taxation and provides 90% of Tibet’s government expenditures. The Tibetan economy is dominated by subsistence agriculture. In recent years, due to the increased interest in Tibetan Buddhism, tourism has become an increasingly important sector, and is actively promoted by the authorities. The Tibetan economy is heavily subsidized by the Central government and government cadres receive the second-highest salaries in China.
Tourism brings in the most income from the sale of handicrafts. These include Tibetan hats, jewelry (silver and gold), wooden items, clothing, quilts, fabrics, Tibetan rugs and carpets. — wikipedia.
Also, Qinghai-Tibet Railway was also built by the chinese government to bring in tourism.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-05/23/content_333024.htm

Yes, i watched Youtube, i also watched from other sources (I’m Singaporean btw). what you see in youtube and tv might really be just 0.01% of truth. and ALL countries news carry biasness. What i suggest is that go to tibet and ask them yourself and all your questions will be cleared. I had friends going there, they say it’s a really beautiful place. I should be visiting around may this year, maybe then I’ll give you a more certain answer.
EDIT: And PLS, by just looking at 0.1% of truth does not make them an expert.
and i need to say something, the one behind me said who don’t want freedom. But freedom comes with a price. US, a country with plenty of freedom, but look at the crime rates. It’s one of the highest in the whole world, and not to mention gun carrying people who shot their schoolmate, teachers. When I went to US for exchange studies many years back, people (esp girls) there tell me they don’t even dare to stay out too late in the night. But in my country, although the laws are rigid(my country even banned chewing gum), it is very safe and clean. And everyone is happy. Is this not what everyone wants? to be happy and feel the security that no matter how late your daughter is, you will not worry for her safety? Same with China (only big cities, never really go to outskirt yet.), I can be walking at 2am in a lonely road and never feel afriad. (China have more petite crime such as pickpockets tho). Yes, freedom is good, who does not want more of it. But freedom comes with a price, and that may just be my daughter getting shot in a shoot out. Sorry if my words came out too strong, I’m just so irritated with people screaming freedom when they don’t even know it’s actually a great responsibility.

I am more on side of tibet being part of china. For 2 simple reason. economy and standard of living. (and there is also a possiblity that the slave system will be re-enforced if they were to be independent.)

Anyway, It’s pointless to keep screaming ‘free tibet’ because it is impossible.

By the way, I think you are a smart person who don’t blindly see things from one side. Thank you for asking! and hoped i helped!